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ITS NOT ABOUT ABSOLUTE TRUTH ITS ABOUT TRUTH

Author: Celia Fix
On transformations ; she describes a “strange activity : imprecise and subjective.
Our first encounter Jim or Mike allowed her reading of my infants papers , to all known where.
Our first strange meeting Berlin IPA Congress 2007, Jim and becoming could be the name ; neither she nor me liked it .Too much pushing...
BBC present!

Grotstein's World and Universe View

Dr. Grotstein publication in Chapter Fifteen (page 251) refers to the cross of the Rubicon : the fateful course ....and the furies left in its wake*

Lets take the Last Observation of a morser about laws:

“I am not interpreting what Milton says but using it to represent O.” -Bion.1965,p.151

We are at this moment facing very sad and terrible things ; like the murder of the Saudi Arabian Journalist . Saudi Arabia has said Jamal Khashoggi was killed inside the country's consulate in Istanbul after a fight broke out. 

Here a link https://news.sky.com/story/saudi-arabia-journalist-jamal-khashoggi-killed-at-consulate-in-turkey-11530076

Oct 2018

Washingtonpost in CNN declares Trumps statements as “credible “as insulting intelligence ( why not humanity?) Can monstrosities be faced with laws?

I am referring  to it  as someone disliked my latest comment in Dream Dialogues but since Platonic thoughts about laws represented in Cortyn’s Creta island exist we can only consider laws as regulatory mechanism to set a setting in this representing O. 

Milton is really saying nothing worthwhile in actuality he is defending a status of no-laws and supported by Wisdom’s necessity ( see distinction and definition in  Chapter Fifteen! 

But if there is a law being created by those who need their pockets as mean to fight “patipelado” in all nationalities there is something wrong in psychoanalysis . Further more if morser arguments foolish things.

We do. It need to follow laws made by those whose aim is psychopathic hence a whole group is slaved for the benefit of some . That’s the difference and the needed capacity to discern as postulates Bion in Memoirs of Future, we have to learn to discern if we want to survive as humans .

 Khashoggi’s murder as observed and published and commented in. Sky links is not a good prospective of humanities survival as humans .

Laws regulate our co-existence one Milton masculine negating  access to historical rights to a woman is criminal and more criminal if a primitive  group as psychoanalysts in the p. f. (Psychoanalytic Field ) support this assumption , its hateful and violent attack’s on feminine  rights to exist in liberty . Financial independence in our world signify ( not represent) liberty. 

IPA psychoanalyst are in parasitism by supporting such stealings of identity : historical rights and freedom. To obligue a feminine to represent O, to dream O as life proyect is just criminal  and will be faced by legal means.

I do not support murders.

Sauna

Quoting Dr.Mason , Los Angeles 

NEW ENTRY:

WRITTEN FOR KARNAC BOOKS TO WHOM I PRETEND TO OFFER THIS EXPERIENCE.
 First introduction in public meanwhile in Hawaii Vulcan eruption lava is blocking ways out.

You may watch in my Facebook Elizabeth Herrmann Belloso how containment can be used to create adversity . And how to meet this phenomena (f).
One can conclude : opposites but ...👀are there not conscious actions to prevent from ?


Yesterday - it seems so far away- married Harry and Meghan, stand by me in power of Love? - in Windsor Castle . Sussex dukes now.
19.5.2018 .
I published my personal experience in the psychoanalytical field .
The morser tells 20 ( today ) I respond : "who are you identification and name "! Why should I be in 20 when the other is anonymous ? Still believing in her personal experience in "cure". She has access to my phone and therefore to all my identity . She is not at my level psychoanalytically hence her method of working was created - within others - on my experience and k.
She advices me to fir - the others - moth- what should this mean ? Sanity ? This is a worldview that comes from the past. Different qualities  in morse let me think today I meet with some.

Differences : But at the same  time  on another level ... I am since 1997 disturbing Grotstein's Universe, so he invited me to Turin's Bion Congress already with some notions about who was my first relationship in the do (morse opinion ) so called psychoanalytical field . He was on another level and the name to identify ( he created a clear identification so I could identify him always find him) he called himself in the IQ chat : imagine .....Qlbrta.... Tigers little stripe.
We could now -under other perspective - think what was his intentionality ? Those days I thought him as a humerous nice conection I was meeting and telling him stories hence he was a little bit nervous about my disappearances . I was in a shuttle analysis - two years away from my graduation and ending training as psychoanalyst - and going home . I used all my fantasies about a weekend stay to develop a comfortable relationship filed with humour and pleasurefull interchanges .

Under the view of my actual experience of this meeting to my first -21 years later -, I would think he is exploiting me to use my presence for his wealth. (2018).Pretending to grow by destroying my existence . A deduction based on the reality of my experience . See what happened to my home and working place to my pleasure spaces LMC stolen . Using legal tools against depredators  who are not able - using NASA- to respect their inner objects . What says a lot about their human quality at least for the observator .

So back to Jim,
I remember him - here the difference to the basic assumption state of mind of those I wrote about yesterday - they need to cure. What " fir" them is ill. (In " morse intervention ). What for them is illness. Psychiatric manual diagnostics .
I remember  him:
Sitting side by side to me gazing at autumn leaves....
then he began to throw little balls .... again little balls ... he was playing balls -I reseve in this rooming in (concept used 2002)  further Details for my papers to publish -with O in presence! We laughed :both.

Morse comments not at level; terrorists at work they do not want me to publish - less in KARNAC since 21 years -they want it - but I am good enough to provide ideas and experience and history ( for them to steal ) so my working tools as windows are boicotted, keys negated access terrorized . Are these terrorists ? Yes I think so . Intolerance on grown up. My legal rights are delayed on their rythm.
Terrorist at work definitively . They morse "play " yes perverse play under the rule of maniacal defenses : control - debasement and triumph if I allow such perverse endeavor .

“Dream” Dialogues

Every entry has a circumstance :
Observations
Becoming
General comment: I appreciate Dr. Mike Eigen Belloso



People need to preserve a status quo - it seems : the response on my latest writing was : NASA
Again this neeed to recur to the known things .
Shows an intolerance to the unknown that has to be destroyed .

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In United States the ideas of Melanie Klein are not well come in the psychoanalytic societies and institutes .

I will report my personal experience in it :

Psychoanalytic field in the following  : pf 

You allege your legal rights : response none!

Then comes the following argument ( the one who took your rights is a hen)

Example you have a woman’s violator ; so as to get her “understand “ the violator is connected to the woman as to violate and violate ( she will understand and transform it) translated in Klein’s terms : sadism is not an evolutionary state but a technique to make others silence by application of sadism .

So woman never gets her right she has to “understand “ he is a violator that’s it. And he just forgot the other 5 „eggs“

Characteristic of a violator can be observed by physical responses on the body of the woman . Response : same argument : he will go on violating hence he can not do another thing.

Psychopatic argument Why?

Even if the internal condition is of a violator this person is able to identify a law that prohibits violator y practice .

But: nobody is interested in laws hence the violator is a hen .

Period of experimenting : phone...
Listening to proposals of improvements

Tonight after 2015 ‘s passing of Dr. James Grotstein first time -3 years after- a thought appeared that comes very close to his “production” of dreams dialogues told me about a white cat called Linda.


Perversions in the field
Yesterday at the closing of the Russian World Cup all could observe an event I commented in a tweet marga’ as an ocult dialogue with Trum ( name used by patient Marcella to disacreditate her biggest object of envy , the formally graduated psychoanalyst she is targeting since being treated ; first by destroying her working ( office connections)and living place. Her enourmous destructivty  and malignity is contained by Mike Eigen who provides her with hacking tools she uses to destroy and attack  or to get benefits in $ when she uses others thoughts for her personal benefit and promotion by her “work” with Melania. Eigen has conscious awareness of this situation.

Chapter VI ( six)

Terror actions as exposed in PCC psychoanalytical society on terror actions in actions in the psychoanalytic field are being denounced in Twitter @HerrmannBelloso addressed among other’s  to @ipaonline.
In my Facebook you can watch the creativity some use to create adversity . In some words sadly those in charge produce more .

What is not human quality: the input used to “invite” ( fill up) the contributor to the development of the psychoanalytic field to assist SpaceX last launch today. Part of a macabrous plan .


Talking as dreaming
Talking on differences :
What is the difference between:
Sitting round a table debating : what’s your opinion based on experiences profesional and personal , culture, professional ranking ethical issues  and others
Versus : observing by creating a rabbit running through created sceneries?
Hypothesis:





Notations:
Since being a little girl I was confronted literally confronted with different languages , even with meaning of silence. Transforming during time where the use of silence as consequence of symbolism resulted being agresively destructive when the meaning dies not get through : why? Why not “lovefuly or life fully? Where is presence for mirne? Learning to speak perhaps? Learning to get through silent aggressions since germination?
Never met such a profound language ,deep in emotions than German. A language without ☀️ so clear. Never met so much people who speak German but don’t aprehend German.
This is very fine expressed in Freud quotation by Ogden  in Chapter six beginning.
Very different to language in Venezuela 🇻🇪 completely different .
Both country are melpots of identities.
This topic is no topic in the field ,sadly.

Chapter 7 moving

Chapter Seven: Moving to the dark 

This chapter begins with an author who relates possibly  to the outside world 

Carole Beebe Tarantelli

Particular interesting is the mix: idealization ( there are some authors who state that aggressiveness ( substitute for rigorous indagation, possibly less experience)  is behind idealization) and defences associated to debasement .( baby fotos ( roots) disappeared “protected “ from Herodes also called Brutus I suppose) In a particularly important date for the reviewer .

Chapter Five

To all authors of Chapters: the function in the psychoanalytic field is not to interfer in others life. Less in other psychoanalysts life : keep your beta view for you and don’t use skills to take away documents . 

Chapter V

Lawrence J. Brown contributes in Annie Reiner’s “Of Things invisible to Mortal Sight” Karnac Books with Chapter Five. 5 

He begins with a quote of James Grotstein  : “All psychopathology is the result of a failure of dreaming “ this quote acquires a special meaning and has to be thought about  for benefits in  the so called psychoanalytic field ( concept used by Ferro, in his contribution “Clinical example 19 page 234 “But at the same time and in another level “ Karnac Books , particularly in “Marcella’s apartment below “( 9) published in Psychoanalytic Quarterly, 72  (2003) 183-200 “Marcella’s the transition from explosive sensoriality to the ability to think  “ which describes the underlining idea applied in the psychoanalytic field and consequences for the practicing psychoanalyst in Venezuela  and her family. (Agua yo as destruction) 

Also called distance to the observed  And distortions. (Reiner Page 239) and Aguayo’s analytic climate @heretical (Aguayo 2013) catastrophic change with “wild interpretations (page 11 Of things) made too early and forcefully in analysis ; the analysis of “deep “ unconscious content before a more gradual and careful analysis of defenses “ (page 11 Of things ) or in the reviewers experience : defense systems that should not -as technical advice - be attacked . Defenses have reasons to exist . Defenses are  difficult to preserve under the effects of transformations in hallucinations in groups as observed in the  psychoanalytic field . “Not all can be gratified “

was at time  P. Sandler’s comment .

Consequences for one family group ? ( illness ,disintegration  attack’s ) Wasn’t it enough containment in @Post? Not really a play ground or play mountain. Steve.

Or as to Quote Antonini Ferro „A Beam of intense Darkness by James Grotstein Chapter 4 Page 59 of Reiner’s “Of things invisible to Mortal sights on Second opinion ( page 59)  ....” giving ill -informed orders because of their distance from the scene in action “  and human tendencies to carry out “transformations in hallucinosis (Bion 1965) to impose meaning on what has no meaning because of our incapacity to wait for shred of meaning to emerge . Or to seek a second opinion ( supervision) Like snails which produce slime ,we are species that continuously “slimes“ meaning because we cannot bear the darkness of our not/knowing .” See > Page 57 Chapter VI Ferro  

This “slime” is then used to construct the Tower of Babel by not publishing or mentioned in references the described in the reviewers unpublished papers proposed to IJP Journal in many moments on “ talking as dreaming “ observed in infants talk  in clinical work of the reviewer in Venezuela 2000-2008. ( not delivered until now 2018 but self attributed by those Caracas 2018 @Post and @SaoPaulo.

A topic also  approached  by Frau Doktor Mistriani PCC psychoanalytic society Los Angeles who initiated her diamond seminars on autism  in Berlin ‘s IPA Congress 2007 and contributed  with her experience in the psychoanalytic field in the city of Bad Homburg , Germany with proposals  for the practicing psychoanalyst not delivered  until the moment 2018. Specially with delicate themes as family des- integration and worldview under the darkness ( dark point)and limitations on worldview and those already mentioned above by A. Ferro.

Not to forget Ronald Britton’s contribution  on Washington Post @Post Steven Spielberg with “existential disappearances “ “unexpected disappearances “ “someone disappears “ targets“ grunts “that’s free fall “ (page 230) Clinical example 18 Chapter 25 “...But at the same time and in another level ...” by James  Grotstein , Karnac Books  quoting Ronald Britton’s unpublished paper “The Baby and the Bathwater “.also called facilitating astra flights . ( more than British ) 

Larry Brown  refers in page 93 , Chapter five of Things  invisible ..... to a "Skype "experience -" I Skyped with Jim , he said he wanted to introduce me to his new friend , Johnnie Walker ..."a conversation between him and Dr. James Grotstein ; with Johnny Walker, a walker Grotstein had to use then ;  Brown related as how  sad was the experience to cope with the loss of  of function " Page 93 Of things....

Dr. W.R. Bion in his War Memoirs makes a reference to "Buchanan , his runner who walked with him and helped him along in war , real Second World War - not imaginary war - Buchanan ( who is who was and to whom this was projected) Buchanan who concealed in difficult times of war . (Page 150 War Memoirs ) We were to do an attack at the flank if the salient simply to prevent the enemy from retiring peaceful ."

I think Grotstein in some sense was telling to Dr. Brown : " I was not in war ! Were you? Dr. Brown?"Long before the moon - not he sun- came up..... Bion’s War memorable 1918-19. Harry Karnac Books.

So this is a matter to think about Dr. Brown , I don't know if you were in the Bion congress in Rome I will check your presentation . I -the reviewer- consider I am empowered to do so ; I speak more than one psychoanalytic languages , you would remember the intervention of Dr. Dario Sor at the Bion Congress in Rom, who complaint about G’s supposed or not attacks on Elizabeth Tabak de Bianchedi and her husband in pietat. ( see mutuality in Bianchedi’s “ The various faces of lies” “ What is truth ? Said jesting Pilate ( page 220 W.R. Bion Between Past and Future by Parthenope Bion: quote Bianchedi Page 224: “For Grotstein (1981) the difference between falsities and lies is the latter‘s use of psychotic mechanism which includes disavowal ...” ( very actual (2018) this kind of interchanges between analysts under the pressure of the unknown and disappearances of one - we are the one to grow!- and desintegracións ) 

Celia Fix Korbivcher did not listen Sor’s complaints  in Rom , she had been retained and arrived late this day to the Bion congress 2008. I suppose she should not listen whom G Had  NOT ATTACKED. Dario Sor was a close collaborator of G from Argentine , where were ears to listen  @?

Rome, 2009 what attacked , what happened 2008 in Homburg? What was the group' s vision and state of mind? Who pays?

You sent me ( the reviewer ) a email at the occasion of the Bion Congress on Boston , as well as letter signed by Natalie Lieshear (very actual organizers in IJP Journal  event in New York Oct 2018 ) announcing my paper had not been accepted but you invited me in the mail telling : I would have to pay for all"! Without specifying what meant " to pay for all"!

In Chapter Five I read "Dr, Joseph Agua yo  and I organized a meeting of remembrance for Jim"

You invited also Lima 2006 who has a very particular vision....of her depredator mind and consequent sanity as a curtain .. You invited Señora Berlin to Boston 2009 as a contribution to symbols and distances that distortions world views in the psychoanalytic field ( this is the way to address in the field to analysts : "señora" hence no woman psychoanalyst has PHD in Venezuela , woman  are called doctoras ) . Berlin alludes to the patient in Chapter Nine : Leonard who run away from an organised romantic meeting. ( No fully organized meeting is romantic )? was d Berlin a passing bill to British who do not publish in " Of things invisible ....?" For Berlin 2007? Those Who never run away?

More interesting was what happened and what wild thoughts ( not from Rafael encyclopedia ) appeared -visibly when I wrote about Buchanan the runner  in my review and Johnny Walker....sky ping experience in this blogg the first time : something happened as wild thought can’t be referred to at Sao Paulo ‘ wild thoughts congress hence the plunder effects and depilating made “me literally financially break down “( Grotstein describing his  financial and editorial difficulties to publish:” Do I dare disturb the universe?” Retained from swimming (LMC) and rugby ( Ron Santa Teresa Caracas is already playing rugby) ( see Bion’s distinguished contribution while Queens College page 3  do I dare disturb)  ....waiting for consciousness to come or perhaps said in Bion’s words :” what kind of psychoanalysis is required for consciousness ?”

I  Reserve publication please abstain cutting off lines or changing them if you quote please don’t forget the reference this is a scientific requirement of the IJP Journal whose 100 years we are celebrating today . See event in New York 

20.3.2018

CHAPTER THIRTEEN

First response: a cat is not a coach. I respond : if a cat is not a coach then respond as psychoanalyst for the damages you are doing in the p.f.
In the following p.f. For Psychoanalytic Field
Pay  

New entry:

The end us the beginning :
Who will pay the apartment destroyed?
The action stolen?
The working place , office and consulting room destroyed? 
Who will pay!2000-2004

2018
Who will pay the wash machine destroyed ?
They found no beta way to simbolize !
Who will pay the car destroyed today 20.10.2018.
OSCAR for them ! In destroying they a big ones but in getting a new car , legal rights in order : NO.
Perhaps Melania Klein can help out and interpret ENVY! The most destructive skill . So get your candidates into O to do the job you don’t want to do , I am for insiders well known reasons not available for such task .



Dr.Mike Eigen refers in Chapter thirteen to a conference where he first met Jim Grotstein who spoke about the unconscious needing protection from consciousness. He also quotes Bion who underlined the positive function of pillaging. (Page 218)

Let’s see how this appears in the reality

First pillaging as to “cure” has prove up to now to be a pathologic use of achievements.

Pillaging in reality by destroying, stealing and other tricks is not ethical hence can’t be considered a psychoanalytic appropriate doing .

The use of stealing by invading, robbing and depredating is Dino level as described in :”But at the same time on another level . “ Author and observer Dr. Grotstein.

The use of nemesis as to steal by the use of mental achievements is at the same level ...psychopathic acting out.

The use of violence as to satisfy a desire ( Without. Memory and desire ) and destroying material property as to symbolise is a witness of helplessness . Little capacities and little developed skills  as to go for knowledge .

So what are the means such dinos of the  lowest level of mental development in some psychoanalytic groups use to satisfy messianic thoughts ? Messianic thoughts about O? For those dinos,  O is what they have “seen” they never experienced O , to get someone into isolation as to work him or her preferently woman are so “beautiful dependent “, to slave the person as to go into O ( what’s they imagine O is hence the aim forcing another to what they have never been . Very difering from Dr. Grotstein who is one of those who think that psychoanalysis is only learnt by experiencing it. Such kind of groups learn quickly how to exploit,  they lived many years of deprivation with low income and so , they have become very hungry .

They do not at all explore what O is,  read , investigate , explore in meetings : NO they want to get some in , hence it seems so promising . They use Dino diagnostic ( pardon Dino) as to determinate who had to go O. So how do they use mental skills ?

In all psychopathic ways you can ever imagine . Just follow my legal steps as to defend from such a Jurassic Park.

São Paolo certainly will not organise a congress about wild stealing thoughts ; they would be obliged to invite me to the main conference ..as to get illuminated some acting’s observed .impossible to expose what some do with their uncontrolled thoughts .

New entry :

In Feeling Matters, first published by Karnac Books 2007 Mike Eigen asks: “Where is the good in Melanie Klein’s proposal  of minds ?”
It was just not a topic at those times ....



Key words Eigen “ignores”: slime concept observed by Ferro ( Kitchen tools)
Consult: Sandler ( who published a lot about mind)
The problem after this one has to renounce the next controller comes : this is the “psychoanalytic task in the field . Beta controller

Unconscious thinking and dreaming and relation to Alfa function : processing proyective (trans) identifications . A labor and that in its depths can not be achieved by leaving behind , so Eigen in his effort to transform the experience by changing it ( what does mean he ignores minds functioning) insists to install via his collaborators pupils so called practicing bipolar functioning as to make sure the bi-continence. He is not so eager in making sure this if it is not about his target. So called psychoanalysts supported by him act out maniacal defenses : ignorance of labors done by experienced analysts in order to establish the new order they grow into by those they now want to “transform “-to beta fill in worldviews .
Gards of the Gards ignoring gards; these are the Caracas societies  functioning
 today : open your video to beta promote mine. Psychopatic functioning assisted elsewhere. Maniacal debasedment adding stupidity and object missfunctioning .
History is just a buffet. Objectrelations “ Bionians maté blanco opposite idiots.
Will you still make nocturns Horn filling Konzerts or could you arrange with Aguayo who will pay the harm done in the last 10 years to be visited on the apartment that used to be a working and living place for a formally trained psychoanalyst .


CHAPTER THIRTEEN > more sutil now: ...giving ill informed informations in social morser and continuing stealing one.... could

she depílate another ? Hasnt it  been enough voracity and sadsim?

Chapter thirteen it comes with you : lies and stealings depilating one.

MIKE EIGEN :” Bion underlined a positive function of pillaging .One image is the drilling deep below the surface of the brave and driven robbers of the Death Pit of Ur (Bion , 1992) The robbers acurately pierced surface rock and dirt to open a passage into the queens burial area with its riches .” End of quote Eigen

Now Grotstein in V 1 ...But at the same time....on another level : “ he extended (Bion) Klein’s concept of projective identifications as an omnipotent intra psychic mechanism to a realistic emotionally communicative technique and an actualialization  or intersubjective communication .”End of quote Grotstein

Key words : Realistic technique

Grotstein furthermore states :” In Totem and Tabu Freud wrote “The law of talion which is so deeply rooted in human feelings, states that murder can only be expiate by the sacrifice of another life .What Freud did not explain was the hidden order of talion law.”Page 272

En Marcas de época , Asociación Psicoanalítica de Buenos Aires 2005 publique un artículo de tratamiento de una infanta revisando los principios básicos identificados como Edipo:
-el sacrificio del infante. ( Grotstein , 2005) por la amenaza que el infante representa ya que confrontará a los padres con sus propios deseos inconscientes y patologías : principio de displacer .
-la expulsión del hijo del seno familiar (con todo el aislamiento que implica la expulsión como defensa ante la culpa y el desplazamiento en la hija el castigo de la expulsión del paraíso . Los deseos incestuosos que la hija representa en lo inconsciente .
-la culpa edipica que conduce al castigo de aquel que se atreve buscar la verdad en la dimensión de la experiencia emocional y en esa búsqueda trasgrede las leyes religiosas e inconscientes

Dice Freud que el instinto de muerte se expresa  en la repetición .
Bion lo reconceptualiza llamándolo O. Como dimensión universal que él postula como existente más allá de los instintos . Reverie, continencia soñar serian los protectores ante el ineludible O de la experiencia humana . Grotstein le suma la fantasía como protector ante O . Fantasías inconscientes e conscientes .No se refiere a la verdad en este contexto pero si afirma que la verdad es imprescindible para el crecimiento emocional psiquico del niño.

Dentro de este contexto no puedo visualizar como el robar y depredar puede como identificación proyectiva en acción tener un efecto positivo tal como lo propone Eigen . De no ser que nos entendamos fuera de un contexto social , grupal lo que no es el campo psicoanalítico .

Continencia en el sentido de conexiones  mentales en sí solas no son protectores adecuados ya que exponen al otro a un O adicional : el O del otro que suma su patología .Protector es un serie complementaria que incluye los protectores externos como familia , propiedad , derechos como ser humano .

Instinto de muerte o no existe una realidad de destruccion observable : a los 6 años del fallecimiento de mi padre obtuve lo que a mi me correspondía como legado de ser descendiente de mis padres , a los 7 años del fallecimiento de mi madre solo he observado y sufrido depredaciones y destrucciones ( según Eigen positivas - sin decir para quien ) que no constituyen en nada una protección ante el ineludible realidad de O como dimensión universal .Solo observo ataques continuos a mi integridad a través de actos de terror que se repiten a diario . Promovido sobre todo por personas que se benefician sin dejar nada a cambio.
Esto aunado a un grupo pequeño que no ha logrado asumir el legado de Grotstein en la práctica . Protección ante O es un sine qua-non para ser. Contrastante con estar en O que significa :
-conocer la verdad de la realidad mental
-desarrollar capacidad mental para el encuentro ineludible con O.
Por lo tanto estamos nuevamente en la historia humana en lo evolutivo del judaísmo al cristianismo ; sacrificando a diario . Jesús Christo no veo en absoluto algo nuevo como propuesto por Annie Reiner .